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darkly Posted: 12.09.2002, 14:21

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very... and I would have been able to secure shell in from Uni. The IP doesn't change that often and I know what date and time it will change. Will I therefore be able to take a note of it in the morning and shell in during the day?



As for the essays, I'll send you some copies and you can do it form there...



Having probs sharing the Internet connection over the LAN. Had it working once and now can't get it to work!!! Grrrrr


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andy Posted: 13.09.2002, 08:54

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Yeah you can do that fine. You can even run a web site that way - makes it "underground".
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darkly Posted: 18.09.2002, 19:45

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Result. I sorted out the prob with the ICS. It was my firewall not supporting ICS and burning all the requests from machines on my LAN!



I have a no-ip account for dynamic IP's to host and shell. All I need to do is talk to andy and sort out how I'm going to do it. May wait until I have my laptop and Linux running on this...



Darkly sings When will I see you a..gainnnn?


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andy Posted: 19.09.2002, 11:11

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Don't really understand any of the above.
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Alice Posted: 15.12.2002, 15:26

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This is my last day of being a teenager...it is so weird to think of becoming 20. In so many ways I still feel completely like a child. Just wondering how other people feel about growing older. I just don't like the idea of it, really. This probably sounds stupid, but when I look at a lot of adults around they seem to be often stuck in a rut, and concerned with mundane stuff. I just don't want to be like that, ever. I don't know - there are just many things that I want to achieve, and some things that I hoped that I would've achieved by now, but haven't. This might sound depressing, but I don't really mean it to be, I am just expounding my present thoughts.



Love from Alice
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Midge Posted: 15.12.2002, 16:11

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Happy Birthday for tomorrow! Don't forget, there's always people older than you (I became 29 last week... though I'm still a student!) so you've got time to learn from their mistakes before you reach their age! One thing I notice about adults is that they're no better than people were at school. When I was at school with all these people with personality problems and nasty traits, we were supposed to believe that adults were 'grown up' and mature. Fair enough, most adults have jobs and mortgages to worry about, but now I'm allowed to actually see what adults are like (including the teachers), I can't say there's much difference - so many of them are still nasty to other people, self-centred, or just afraid of the outside world.



On a more cheerful note tho, like I said on the Ambitions discussion, I can look at some Christians who are older than me and think - they're mature and wise, I'd like to be able to look forward to being like them. They may have gone through a lot of hard times, but they really love God and it shows.



And I can even look back on the last 9 years of my life and thank God for sorting out some of my problems. I always feel bad about the problems I still have, and I look back and think 'I wish I could relive that time as the person I am now', but I try to thank God for the good things and the things that have changed in my life (tho sometimes I find it hard to find them!)



It is peculiar growing older tho. On my birthday I thought "I wonder what fraction of my life I've already lived by now?" and thought how precious my remaining time is. It's odd to think how I'm still here at uni at the age of 29. But God knows what He wants out of my life. I'm glad I don't have to live a 'successful life' and get a 'fulfilling career' and a happy retirement etc. - or else feel like a miserable failure at the end of it all. God's able to multiply our little efforts and struggles into something that pleases Him and is part of His work.



PS Was just re-reading all the comments on ~ and Goliath - some great discussion about life and meaning. On the other hand, I looked at a secular humanist website and they said: "Humanists believe the meaning of life is to live a life of meaning." Isn't that just great? I feel like my life has no meaning, I ask what the meaning of life is, and I'm told to get a life of meaning.
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davidb Posted: 17.12.2002, 13:03



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Alice, hope you had a great birthday! Welcome to your 3rd decade... I remember I felt mortified at becoming 20 (so old!) but also quite excited.



I do sometimes worry about the same sort of things - growing older and older without ever achieving or becoming anything of real value. I think this is partly an illusion - I *have* done some things I'm pleased about - but they sometimes seem so little in comparison with the time I've wasted. Despite the fact that this is fundamentally a depressing thought, the up-side is that it makes me turn back to God, praying to him to use my life, and making me more determined to live for him.



Anyway, enough somber reflection! I hope everyone's having an enjoyable run-up to Christmas. I'm pottering this week, then off on holiday on Friday, which I'm really looking forward to...




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m Posted: 17.12.2002, 20:43

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I remember being quite upset about leaving my teens. I don't think I'm over it yet. I'm 27 and a half going on 5...)



Have to say though, having recently felt like God handed me nearly all the things I ever wanted out of life on a plate, it's all a bit odd. I have made a list of some new ambitions (on the very cool advice of ~) so that I didn't get stuck in a rut: I think that kind of thing is easy to do from watching the way friends have done that once their jobs/home life becomes routine. But I think God has lots of exciting things still planned. Like the other week I abseiled for the first time and that was pretty cool but only a little thing in the big plan of the universe!



I am rambling now... sorry!
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andy Posted: 18.12.2002, 04:20

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I quite like birthdays as I like to think maybe I'm a bit maturer every year. Things to be cheerful about:



a) There's so much to learn - think how much you know now. I don't mean head-knowledge I mean understanding of people and the way things are and God's character. The longer you live, if you have the right attitude, the more you can learn and have learnt.



b) Becoming boring is nothing to do with age - it's all about what you want out of life. Keep checking you want to be interesting and you will be.



c) Happy birthday!
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Midge Posted: 18.12.2002, 19:33

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Somber? Anyway, as I was walking in the freezing cold to the movie theater this afternoon, I started to ponder why I often felt unhappy about life. And it occurred to me (not a new thought) that a lot of the time it is just cos I was leaving things till some point in the future rather than starting to live properly now. That can be putting off praying till I've put in a "good day's work", putting off exercise and other stuff till I've finished a chunk of work at some undetermined day/month in the future, putting off living a proper balanced life till I've finished my degree, and I dare say it can expand to even bigger chunks of time. Instead I should seize the day, as Robin Williams would remind us. Or as Ultra Nate would say:



"When you're down and you're feeling bad

Everybody has left you sad

Feels like no one will pull you thru

It's your life, what ya gonna do (do do)

Make that changes start today (start today)

Get out of bed, get on your way (on your way)

Don't be scared

The truth is right there

If you want, you want it

Reach for it

You're free

To do what you want to do

You've gotta live-a your life

Do what you want to do

You're free

You've gotta live-a your life

etc."
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Anonymous   Posted: 18.12.2002, 23:50
Unregistered User >>I am rambling now... sorry!



No, please do! I don't want to be the only one.
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Midge Posted: 19.12.2002, 00:34

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Sorry - that was me. Anyway, I should balance up my last message by saying that I often feel happy and cheerful about life too - only yesterday I was thanking God for a great day going round town with an old friend who was visiting, and bumping into several other friends in the process, and then seeing a friend of mine who I'd prayed for in the morning, and he was in the best mood he'd been in for months. And then I opened lots of Christmas cards that'd just arrived, and someone'd sent me a Christmas present too... And then I bumped into more friends. And then the moon and the stars were gleaming etc...



Tonight on the other hand was a good example of meeting some middle-aged adults who acted like schoolchildren...
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andy Posted: 19.12.2002, 16:56

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Thanks for your openness recently Midge, it's much appreciated.
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Midge Posted: 22.12.2002, 23:28

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Similar to the birthday theme, we'll soon be looking back on 2002 and wondering (at) what we've achieved in the year. What occurred to me this morning is that my aims, plans and expectations are often too ambitious, but that some of them come true, some of them are fulfilled partly, some turn out in a way I didn't expect, and some just didn't happen. If this is true of my expectations about a single year, I'm sure it'll be true of my whole life too. So I need to learn to live with hopes and ambitions in a different way from how I do it now. I shouldn't feel disappointed and frustrated when my plans don't turn out as I expected. I should realise that my life isn't as dependent on my plans as I think, and that it being a meaningful life shouldn't depend on my plans coming true either. I suppose the story of my life is a collaborative effort between God and me.



PS Has ~ really only posted one message on the discussion boards? (See top of this thread.) Where is ~ now?



Oh and in case I don't get to say it later - Have a Very Merry Christmas everyone, and a happy new year!



Hail thou ever blessed morn!

Hail redemption's happy dawn!

Sing through all Jerusalem

Christ is born in Bethlehem!
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andy Posted: 02.01.2003, 07:48

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Now that the holiday is over I'm so consumed with worry about all the things I said I;d do this year that I can't remember what happened last year...



~ is now much less able to get to a PC but is doing well teaching young people how to fall off rocks etc. for �30 per week.
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darkly Posted: 22.01.2003, 02:24

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But I'm on the outside, I'm looking in,

I can see through you, see your true colours,

inside your ugly, ugly like me,

I can see through you, see the real you.



Stained, Ugly


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andy Posted: 22.01.2003, 15:11

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Cheers mate, that's a real blessing to me. I just didn't feel dirty enough.
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Anonymous   Posted: 24.01.2003, 23:52
Unregistered User Isn't the Internet great?



I read darkly's cheering message.

I think "Isn't there a song with a similar line? - I'm on the outside looking in".

I search the web and find there are loads of songs with that line.

I track down the song I was thinking of and find it was by Chagall Guevara.

I whip my Chagall Guevara CD out of the filing cabinet.



I find that the same bloke Steve Taylor also wrote the song someone read out in our Bible study group, about Christian conformism:

http://www.renc.igs.net/~adt/qrstuv/songs/iwtbac/track02.html#lyrics



And I also find this useful addition to the discussion about WWJD:

http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~af883/kwotes/songs.html
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darkly Posted: 28.01.2003, 21:09

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Aye it should have said 'Stainded, Outside' Sorry to miss quote...



It was a good example of how I was feeling when I wrote it..


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Midge Posted: 28.01.2003, 22:47

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Which beggeth the question - how are you feeling now?
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andy Posted: 30.01.2003, 15:29

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Weird, again.



Why never normal mother?
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Midge Posted: 31.01.2003, 17:06

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No - I meant Darkly. (Maybe you did too.)
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andy Posted: 03.02.2003, 07:52

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Sorry did a Buffy there.



Buffy, adj, coloq. Applying whatever is happening around oneself to one's own situation. c.f. Someone is talking about their relationship problems and a dreamy looking comes into Buffy's eyes as she applies everything they are saying to her own problems, rendering her useless to the the confiding friend. Indicative of a general self-involvment, and related the "How could you say that to me?" response to criticism so often seen in the central character of the popular horror teen drama Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
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Midge Posted: 03.02.2003, 23:10

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What is it called when you have to listen to various people going on about all their relationship problems and you look out of the corners of your eyes at the other tables in the pub and the pictures on the walls and think "Well, at least you've got relationships to have problems with"?

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andy Posted: 04.02.2003, 10:49

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That used to be what Xander had until he found his ex-demon.
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